Mr. Asthma

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You need to put a bubble around your house like in the movie ET, did you see ET Kathy? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I live in the country but when the wind blows the wrong way and > several people have their fireplaces going, the smoke seeps into > the house.  I actually have to get up and leave, no matter what > time it is.  My house is new, but smoke gets thru anyway.  And if > it’s not fireplaces, someone is burning their trash, brush, etc. > Has anyone figured a way to stay in the house and get rid of the > smoke.  The exhaust fan in the kitchen and bath > is > not enough.  I don’t see an air filter making much difference. > Anyway, > just > looking for ideas.  Tired of walking aroud Walmart at midnight. > Kathy

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Some dickhead I’ll bet. — kmh

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I’ll bet the folks at alt.support.asthma are cracking up over this > one.  Who the heck cross posted this stuff here? > Earle > How about bong smoke and crack pipe smoke, will it filter that? > Also after > time can you scrap the resins off the filter and smoke them? > > Path: > lon1-news.nildram.net!newsfeed.wirehub.nl!jfk3-feed1.news.digex.ne > t!dc > a6-feed2.news.digex.net!intermedia!newsfeed1.cidera.com!Cidera!new > s.st > > arband.net!twister2.starband.net.POSTED!not-for-mail > > X-Trace: twister2.starband.net 1013729265 148.64.68.172 (Thu, > 14 Feb > > 2002 18:27:23 EST) > > NNTP-Posting-Host: 148.64.68.172 > > Lines: 28 > > Organization: Starband Communications > > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 > > X-Priority: 3 > > Newsgroups: alt.support.asthma > > X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 > > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > > Call a chimney specialist! You should not have this problem. > Your > > chimney > > may be dirty or blocked with creosote, thus restricting air > flow out > > of the > > chimney.Also you may have to raise the pipe up over the top of > the > > chimney > > with an extention pipe to increase the updraft to carry the > smoke > > outside. A > > real specialist will check all of these things out in order to > > correct your > > smoke problem.NO air cleaner will help this problem. The > problem is > > within > > the chimney system itself. > message > > > I live in the country but when the wind blows the wrong way > and > > > several people have their fireplaces going, the smoke seeps > into > > > the house.  I actually have to get up and leave, no matter > what > > > time it is.  My house is new, but smoke gets thru anyway. > And if > > > it’s not fireplaces, someone is burning their trash, brush, > etc. > > > Has anyone figured a way to stay in the house and get rid of > the > > > smoke.  The exhaust fan in the kitchen and bath > > is > > > not enough.  I don’t see an air filter making much > difference. > > > Anyway, > > just > > > looking for ideas.  Tired of walking aroud Walmart at > midnight. > > > Kathy

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I’ll bet the folks at alt.support.asthma are cracking up over this one.  Who the heck cross posted this stuff here? Earle

> How about bong smoke and crack pipe smoke, will it filter that? Also after > time can you scrap the resins off the filter and smoke them? > Path:

lon1-news.nildram.net!newsfeed.wirehub.nl!jfk3-feed1.news.digex.ne t!dc a6-feed2.news.digex.net!intermedia!newsfeed1.cidera.com!Cidera!new s.st – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> arband.net!twister2.starband.net.POSTED!not-for-mail > X-Trace: twister2.starband.net 1013729265 148.64.68.172 (Thu, 14 Feb > 2002 18:27:23 EST) > NNTP-Posting-Host: 148.64.68.172 > Lines: 28 > Organization: Starband Communications > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 > X-Priority: 3 > Newsgroups: alt.support.asthma > X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > Call a chimney specialist! You should not have this problem. Your > chimney > may be dirty or blocked with creosote, thus restricting air flow out > of the > chimney.Also you may have to raise the pipe up over the top of the > chimney > with an extention pipe to increase the updraft to carry the smoke > outside. A > real specialist will check all of these things out in order to > correct your > smoke problem.NO air cleaner will help this problem. The problem is > within > the chimney system itself. message > > I live in the country but when the wind blows the wrong way and > > several people have their fireplaces going, the smoke seeps into > > the house.  I actually have to get up and leave, no matter what > > time it is.  My house is new, but smoke gets thru anyway. And if > > it’s not fireplaces, someone is burning their trash, brush, etc. > > Has anyone figured a way to stay in the house and get rid of the > > smoke.  The exhaust fan in the kitchen and bath > is > > not enough.  I don’t see an air filter making much difference. > > Anyway, > just > > looking for ideas.  Tired of walking aroud Walmart at midnight. > > Kathy

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I deal with it by not sticking my head in a burning fireplace. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text —— Original Message —– Newsgroups: alt.satellite.starband,alt.support.asthma Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 02:00 AM

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I’m writing that one down so I remember. What a great idea. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I deal with it by not sticking my head in a burning fireplace. > —– Original Message —– > Newsgroups: alt.satellite.starband,alt.support.asthma > Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 02:00 AM

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How about bong smoke and crack pipe smoke, will it filter that? Also after time can you scrap the resins off the filter and smoke them? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Path: > lon1-news.nildram.net!newsfeed.wirehub.nl!jfk3-feed1.news.digex.net!dc > a6-feed2.news.digex.net!intermedia!newsfeed1.cidera.com!Cidera!news.st > arband.net!twister2.starband.net.POSTED!not-for-mail > X-Trace: twister2.starband.net 1013729265 148.64.68.172 (Thu, 14 Feb > 2002 18:27:23 EST) > NNTP-Posting-Host: 148.64.68.172 > Lines: 28 > Organization: Starband Communications > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 > X-Priority: 3 > Newsgroups: alt.support.asthma > X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > Call a chimney specialist! You should not have this problem. Your > chimney > may be dirty or blocked with creosote, thus restricting air flow out > of the > chimney.Also you may have to raise the pipe up over the top of the > chimney > with an extention pipe to increase the updraft to carry the smoke > outside. A > real specialist will check all of these things out in order to > correct your > smoke problem.NO air cleaner will help this problem. The problem is > within > the chimney system itself. > I live in the country but when the wind blows the wrong way and > several people have their fireplaces going, the smoke seeps into > the house.  I actually have to get up and leave, no matter what > time it is.  My house is new, but smoke gets thru anyway.  And if > it’s not fireplaces, someone is burning their trash, brush, etc. > Has anyone figured a way to stay in the house and get rid of the > smoke.  The exhaust fan in the kitchen and bath > is > not enough.  I don’t see an air filter making much difference. > Anyway, > just > looking for ideas.  Tired of walking aroud Walmart at midnight. > Kathy

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Path: feed2.news.rcn.net!rcn!dca6-feed2.news.digex.net!intermedia!newsfeed1. cidera.com!Cidera!news.starband.net!twister1.starband.net.POSTED!not-f or-mail X-Trace: twister1.starband.net 1013762213 148.64.68.172 (Fri, 15 Feb 2002 03:36:31 EST) NNTP-Posting-Host: 148.64.68.172 Lines: 62 Organization: Starband Communications X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Priority: 3 Newsgroups: alt.support.asthma X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal The answer is still there to provide quality INFO to those with this problem. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Thanks but if you had read my message, I am having problems with > other peoples fireplaces and their smoke drifting towards my house. >   As an asthmatic no way could I or would I have a fireplace in my > home.  We have no > chimney. > Kathy > Call a chimney specialist! You should not have this problem. Your chimney > may be dirty or blocked with creosote, thus restricting air flow > out of > the > chimney.Also you may have to raise the pipe up over the top of > the chimney > with an extention pipe to increase the updraft to carry the smoke outside. > A > real specialist will check all of these things out in order to > correct > your > smoke problem.NO air cleaner will help this problem. The problem > is within > the chimney system itself. > > I live in the country but when the wind blows the wrong way and several > > people have their fireplaces going, the smoke seeps into the > > house.  I actually have to get up and leave, no matter what > > time it is.  My house > is > > new, but smoke gets thru anyway.  And if it’s not fireplaces, > > someone is > > burning their trash, brush, etc.  Has anyone figured a way to > > stay in > the > > house and get rid of the smoke.  The exhaust fan in the kitchen > > and bath > is > > not enough.  I don’t see an air filter making much difference. Anyway, > just > > looking for ideas.  Tired of walking aroud Walmart at midnight. > > Kathy

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Thanks but if you had read my message, I am having problems with other peoples fireplaces and their smoke drifting towards my house.   As an asthmatic no way could I or would I have a fireplace in my home.  We have no chimney. Kathy

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Call a chimney specialist! You should not have this problem. Your chimney > may be dirty or blocked with creosote, thus restricting air flow out of the > chimney.Also you may have to raise the pipe up over the top of the chimney > with an extention pipe to increase the updraft to carry the smoke outside. A > real specialist will check all of these things out in order to correct your > smoke problem.NO air cleaner will help this problem. The problem is within > the chimney system itself. > I live in the country but when the wind blows the wrong way and several > people have their fireplaces going, the smoke seeps into the house.  I > actually have to get up and leave, no matter what time it is.  My house is > new, but smoke gets thru anyway.  And if it’s not fireplaces, someone is > burning their trash, brush, etc.  Has anyone figured a way to stay in the > house and get rid of the smoke.  The exhaust fan in the kitchen and bath > is > not enough.  I don’t see an air filter making much difference.  Anyway, > just > looking for ideas.  Tired of walking aroud Walmart at midnight. > Kathy

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The answer is still there to provide quality INFO to those with this problem. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Thanks but if you had read my message, I am having problems with other > peoples fireplaces and their smoke drifting towards my house.   As an > asthmatic no way could I or would I have a fireplace in my home.  We have no > chimney. > Kathy > Call a chimney specialist! You should not have this problem. Your chimney > may be dirty or blocked with creosote, thus restricting air flow out of > the > chimney.Also you may have to raise the pipe up over the top of the chimney > with an extention pipe to increase the updraft to carry the smoke outside. > A > real specialist will check all of these things out in order to correct > your > smoke problem.NO air cleaner will help this problem. The problem is within > the chimney system itself. > > I live in the country but when the wind blows the wrong way and several > > people have their fireplaces going, the smoke seeps into the house.  I > > actually have to get up and leave, no matter what time it is.  My house > is > > new, but smoke gets thru anyway.  And if it’s not fireplaces, someone is > > burning their trash, brush, etc.  Has anyone figured a way to stay in > the > > house and get rid of the smoke.  The exhaust fan in the kitchen and bath > is > > not enough.  I don’t see an air filter making much difference. Anyway, > just > > looking for ideas.  Tired of walking aroud Walmart at midnight. > > Kathy

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Path: lon1-news.nildram.net!newsfeed.wirehub.nl!jfk3-feed1.news.digex.net!dc a6-feed2.news.digex.net!intermedia!newsfeed1.cidera.com!Cidera!news.st arband.net!twister2.starband.net.POSTED!not-for-mail X-Trace: twister2.starband.net 1013729265 148.64.68.172 (Thu, 14 Feb 2002 18:27:23 EST) NNTP-Posting-Host: 148.64.68.172 Lines: 28 Organization: Starband Communications X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Priority: 3 Newsgroups: alt.support.asthma X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Call a chimney specialist! You should not have this problem. Your chimney may be dirty or blocked with creosote, thus restricting air flow out of the chimney.Also you may have to raise the pipe up over the top of the chimney with an extention pipe to increase the updraft to carry the smoke outside. A real specialist will check all of these things out in order to correct your smoke problem.NO air cleaner will help this problem. The problem is within the chimney system itself. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I live in the country but when the wind blows the wrong way and > several people have their fireplaces going, the smoke seeps into > the house.  I actually have to get up and leave, no matter what > time it is.  My house is new, but smoke gets thru anyway.  And if > it’s not fireplaces, someone is burning their trash, brush, etc. > Has anyone figured a way to stay in the house and get rid of the > smoke.  The exhaust fan in the kitchen and bath is > not enough.  I don’t see an air filter making much difference. > Anyway, just > looking for ideas.  Tired of walking aroud Walmart at midnight. > Kathy

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Thanks Colin Ozone is just as bad for me as smoke.  If you can belive it, I once went to a new pulmonologist, (Once is the key word) and he had carpets in the exam room, had ozone producing air cleaners and my husband found candles that had been burning in the office.  Luckly I wasn’t there long, and had persistant attacks for a week after that visit.  But the ozone changed from an approaching thunderstorm is enough to get me. But on the subject of perimeter smoke, I have called in the Texas Natural Resouce people and I have gotten alot of illegal burning stopped.  One guy even went to jail for his illegal burning and others fined.  But the legal burning is what is affecting me. It just seems this day and age with all the crap over clean air you would think the states would not allow burning of trash.  But I am still working on that issue here and most of my neighbors now wait till I go out of town or gone for the day before they burn their brush. I wondered if a mask like firefighters wear would filter out the smoke when its light and just leave when its heavy. But anyway thanks everyone for their suggestions.  I will take them into account when deciding what to try to do. Kathy

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Our Technology is SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN to ELIMINATE SMOKE. >www.ecoquestintl.com/pmccarthy > Of course you fail to mention that this applies to tobacco smoke only. > (Something that should never be in the home of an asthmatic in the > first place. > You also fail to mention that your product produces ozone – an OSHA > registered hazardous chemical and EPA registered _pollutant_. > Next you fail to mention that people with allergies and/or asthma are > hypersensitive to the effects of ozone exposure.  And that the levels > of ozone your product emits are _known_ to be harmful to those people. > Now, since tobacco smoke is the _only_ thing that your product can be > claimed to be effective on – I have a question for you. > Ozone eliminates the chemicals that make up tobacco smoke by causing a > chemical reaction that changes them into other chemicals.  What are > those breakdown chemicals and are they more or less dangerous than the > tobacco smoke? > In summary, we know just what kind of scum you are to be willing to > endanger other people’s health in order to get money from them.  Your > product is a known scam that Consumer Reports states should not be > used in areas where human beings are present.  The EPA has concluded > that they simply do not work, and the FTC has successfully sued the > maker of one of the leading brands of ozone generators for fraudulent > advertising. > Please go crawl back under that rock you came from. > — > We make war so we may live in peace. > Aristotle

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> Our Technology is SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN to ELIMINATE SMOKE. > www.ecoquestintl.com/pmccarthy

A fire extinguisher?

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> Our Technology is SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN to ELIMINATE SMOKE. > www.ecoquestintl.com/pmccarthy > A fire extinguisher?

On who, the fire or firestarter  LOL – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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Call a chimney specialist! You should not have this problem. Your chimney may be dirty or blocked with creosote, thus restricting air flow out of the chimney.Also you may have to raise the pipe up over the top of the chimney with an extention pipe to increase the updraft to carry the smoke outside. A real specialist will check all of these things out in order to correct your smoke problem.NO air cleaner will help this problem. The problem is within the chimney system itself. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I live in the country but when the wind blows the wrong way and several > people have their fireplaces going, the smoke seeps into the house.  I > actually have to get up and leave, no matter what time it is.  My house is > new, but smoke gets thru anyway.  And if it’s not fireplaces, someone is > burning their trash, brush, etc.  Has anyone figured a way to stay in the > house and get rid of the smoke.  The exhaust fan in the kitchen and bath is > not enough.  I don’t see an air filter making much difference.  Anyway, just > looking for ideas.  Tired of walking aroud Walmart at midnight. > Kathy

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> I live in the country but when the wind blows the wrong way and several > people have their fireplaces going, the smoke seeps into the house.  I > actually have to get up and leave, no matter what time it is.  My house is > new, but smoke gets thru anyway.  And if it’s not fireplaces, someone is > burning their trash, brush, etc.  Has anyone figured a way to stay in the > house and get rid of the smoke.  The exhaust fan in the kitchen and bath is > not enough.  I don’t see an air filter making much difference.  Anyway, just > looking for ideas.  Tired of walking aroud Walmart at midnight. > Kathy

If you can prove the trash thing (photos) and are in the US, the EPA might be able to assist. My friend used Austin air filters, until the local trash burner got the best of her (cracked rib from coughing for days on end). What kind of heating do you have? The city’s not necessarily any better.  Isn’t here with wood fireplaces, potbelly stoves, campfires etc. Your exhaust fans might actually be making it worse, if they’re exhausting outdoors (sending warm air outdoors and thereby creating a negative pressure situation so that more smokey air seeps in/faster). Maybe you need to consult an expert on "home-sealing" and another on HVAC system? J

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I had the same problems living here in the country, espically with mountain fires in the fall.  You need a very large carbon filter.  Carbon filters filter out organic things like smoke, I found one from the internet that is filled with charcoal, and supposed to last 5 years, its supposed to be large enough to clean the whole house, but i have a 2 floor house, and keep it in my bedroom when the fires start and other times I keep it in the central room I don’t think it could actually clean the whole house, but it was about 300 dollars, this was 2 years ago, maybe cheaper somewhere now. Hope you find something that can help you. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I live in the country but when the wind blows the wrong way and several > people have their fireplaces going, the smoke seeps into the house.  I > actually have to get up and leave, no matter what time it is.  My house is > new, but smoke gets thru anyway.  And if it’s not fireplaces, someone is > burning their trash, brush, etc.  Has anyone figured a way to stay in the > house and get rid of the smoke.  The exhaust fan in the kitchen and bath is > not enough.  I don’t see an air filter making much difference.  Anyway, just > looking for ideas.  Tired of walking aroud Walmart at midnight. > Kathy

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A HVAC system with a carbon filter that you can turn on to circulate the air. You would also need to have your house checked for leaky anything. Please note that if you do seal your house completely there will be no way for fresh air to come in and you’ll have to do it manually. Lane – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I live in the country but when the wind blows the wrong way and several > people have their fireplaces going, the smoke seeps into the house.  I > actually have to get up and leave, no matter what time it is.  My house is > new, but smoke gets thru anyway.  And if it’s not fireplaces, someone is > burning their trash, brush, etc.  Has anyone figured a way to stay in the > house and get rid of the smoke.  The exhaust fan in the kitchen and bath is > not enough.  I don’t see an air filter making much difference.  Anyway, just > looking for ideas.  Tired of walking aroud Walmart at midnight. > Kathy

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Our Technology is SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN to ELIMINATE SMOKE. www.ecoquestintl.com/pmccarthy – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I live in the country but when the wind blows the wrong way and several > people have their fireplaces going, the smoke seeps into the house.  I > actually have to get up and leave, no matter what time it is.  My house is > new, but smoke gets thru anyway.  And if it’s not fireplaces, someone is > burning their trash, brush, etc.  Has anyone figured a way to stay in the > house and get rid of the smoke.  The exhaust fan in the kitchen and bath is > not enough.  I don’t see an air filter making much difference.  Anyway, just > looking for ideas.  Tired of walking aroud Walmart at midnight. > Kathy

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>Our Technology is SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN to ELIMINATE SMOKE. >www.ecoquestintl.com/pmccarthy

Of course you fail to mention that this applies to tobacco smoke only. (Something that should never be in the home of an asthmatic in the first place. You also fail to mention that your product produces ozone – an OSHA registered hazardous chemical and EPA registered _pollutant_. Next you fail to mention that people with allergies and/or asthma are hypersensitive to the effects of ozone exposure.  And that the levels of ozone your product emits are _known_ to be harmful to those people. Now, since tobacco smoke is the _only_ thing that your product can be claimed to be effective on – I have a question for you. Ozone eliminates the chemicals that make up tobacco smoke by causing a chemical reaction that changes them into other chemicals.  What are those breakdown chemicals and are they more or less dangerous than the tobacco smoke? In summary, we know just what kind of scum you are to be willing to endanger other people’s health in order to get money from them.  Your product is a known scam that Consumer Reports states should not be used in areas where human beings are present.  The EPA has concluded that they simply do not work, and the FTC has successfully sued the maker of one of the leading brands of ozone generators for fraudulent advertising. Please go crawl back under that rock you came from. — We make war so we may live in peace. Aristotle

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Up to now I haven’t had to use a hepa air cleaner because nothing comes in the house that would trigger an attack.  Well, the outside cat can streak 100 miles an hour from nowhere and squeeze in the screen door as it is closing.  But other than the smoke, I am fine in the house.  But thanks for writing. Kathy – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I do not have problems in the house, but as soon as I step out the front > door. There are times I would like to take a walk, even tho it is cool > out, but I can not do it because people are using their fireplaces. > In the house have you used a hepa air cleaner? > sue > I live in the country but when the wind blows the wrong way and several > people have their fireplaces going, the smoke seeps into the house.  I > actually have to get up and leave, no matter what time it is.  My house is > new, but smoke gets thru anyway.  And if it’s not fireplaces, someone is > burning their trash, brush, etc.  Has anyone figured a way to stay in the > house and get rid of the smoke.  The exhaust fan in the kitchen and bath is > not enough.  I don’t see an air filter making much difference.  Anyway, just > looking for ideas.  Tired of walking aroud Walmart at midnight. > Kathy

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I do not have problems in the house, but as soon as I step out the front door. There are times I would like to take a walk, even tho it is cool out, but I can not do it because people are using their fireplaces. In the house have you used a hepa air cleaner? sue – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I live in the country but when the wind blows the wrong way and several > people have their fireplaces going, the smoke seeps into the house.  I > actually have to get up and leave, no matter what time it is.  My house is > new, but smoke gets thru anyway.  And if it’s not fireplaces, someone is > burning their trash, brush, etc.  Has anyone figured a way to stay in the > house and get rid of the smoke.  The exhaust fan in the kitchen and bath is > not enough.  I don’t see an air filter making much difference.  Anyway, just > looking for ideas.  Tired of walking aroud Walmart at midnight. > Kathy

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I live in the country but when the wind blows the wrong way and several people have their fireplaces going, the smoke seeps into the house.  I actually have to get up and leave, no matter what time it is.  My house is new, but smoke gets thru anyway.  And if it’s not fireplaces, someone is burning their trash, brush, etc.  Has anyone figured a way to stay in the house and get rid of the smoke.  The exhaust fan in the kitchen and bath is not enough.  I don’t see an air filter making much difference.  Anyway, just looking for ideas.  Tired of walking aroud Walmart at midnight. Kathy

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