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>I gave you the info on where to find it.Go work for it Colon !
In other words, you cannot back up your claims – as usual. "Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea — massive, diffucult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it." Gene Spafford 1992
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>I can not find the list that we found about two years ago, so here is some >other info that I have found.
But no specific reference that supports your claims? (Since there are no actual references as to source materials the Tibeten Mastiff quote cannot be relied upon for decisions concerning human health and safety.) "Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea — massive, diffucult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it." Gene Spafford 1992
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>I have seasonal asthma and allergies. I also have 3 boys that have been >wanting to get a dog for years. So far I have resisted, but now it is >getting more difficult. Are there any breeds of dogs that are supposedly >less of a problem for asthmatics. This would be a downstairs and backyard >dog only. My bedroom and most of my living quarters are upstairs.
People live in the house and the dog lives out doors and stays out doors. Gordon Gordon Couger Stillwater OK
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Anybody that gets a dog as a pet and keeps it outdoors in or almost in the elements all of the time, is not worthy of being a pet owner. All breeds of dogs need to have dry shelter that never gets to hot or to cold with ample food and attention. A dog should be treated as part of the owners family, even if it is a working dog. Mabe you should be chained and kept outside for just a week or two so you can get a good taste of your idea of what a dogs life should be like Gordon ! Signature To Chat With A LIVE Sales Person { NOW ! } Click On The Box To The Right Add the HumanClick "Click to Chat" button to your own e-mails for free at www.humanclick.com
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – says… >I have seasonal asthma and allergies. I also have 3 boys that have been >wanting to get a dog for years. So far I have resisted, but now it is >getting more difficult. Are there any breeds of dogs that are supposedly >less of a problem for asthmatics. This would be a downstairs and backyard >dog only. My bedroom and most of my living quarters are upstairs. > People live in the house and the dog lives out doors and stays out doors. > Gordon > Gordon Couger > Stillwater OK
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Just the fact that I have absolutely no negitive reaction to my TM dogs at all is good enough for me and for the many other people that aquire their non or less allergenic breeds that do not cause them to react with any or very little allergy symptoms.There are many thousands of people with animal allergies that live with in harmony without reacting to their special dog breeds.Many dog breeds cause my eyes to swell up for up to two days when I have contact with them. When I first got my Tibetan Mastiffs, I was very worried that I might react to them. I was very happy that I have not had any problems at all. I have since had contact with other TM owners that have animal allergies. They have reported the same good fortune as I have. Signature To Chat With A LIVE Sales Person { NOW ! } Click On The Box To The Right Add the HumanClick "Click to Chat" button to your own e-mails for free at www.humanclick.com
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I can not find the list that we found about two years ago, so here is some >other info that I have found. > But no specific reference that supports your claims? > (Since there are no actual references as to source materials the > Tibeten Mastiff quote cannot be relied upon for decisions concerning > human health and safety.) > "Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea — > massive, diffucult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a > source of mind boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it." > Gene Spafford 1992
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Roger – If you are unsure if you are allergic to dogs, maybe you should spend some time in the home of someone who has one. The last thing you would want to do is get a dog that your family becomes attached to and have to give it away. See if you can spend time in someone’s home with a dog and see if your allergies or asthma begin to act up. I, personally, am allergic to all kinds of animals. Once, I had to leave a party, the host had a cat and no one knew about it because he wasnt supposed to have one. After 20 minutes I started wheezing and the Ventolin was having no effect, I knew something was causing it. He had a cat that he kept upstairs, but when he held it, the cat hair got on his clothes and subsequently in other parts of the house as it fell off of his clothes. I seriously would see if you can tolerate being in a home that has a dog. It might be the only way to find out. Life is uncertain – eat dessert first. Nancy 8=: )
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>Just the fact that I have absolutely no negitive reaction to my TM dogs at >all is good enough for me and for the many other people that aquire their >non or less allergenic breeds that do not cause them to react with any or >very little allergy symptoms.There are many thousands of people with animal >allergies that live with in harmony without reacting to their special dog >breeds.Many dog breeds cause my eyes to swell up for up to two days when I >have contact with them. When I first got my Tibetan Mastiffs, I was very >worried that I might react to them.
My only question is why you would get the dogs if there was the possibility that you might react to them. Its certainly wonderful that you didnt, and all is well, but if you did, they would have had to be sent back and your family would have been very upset. Wouldnt it have been wiser to do some testing before you bought? Just an observation. Life is uncertain – eat dessert first. Nancy 8=: )
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After I talked to a few people with dog and cat allergies that had TM’s without any problems, I was willing to take the chance and I did. I sure am glad that I did now because TM’s are great! Signature To Chat With A LIVE Sales Person { NOW ! } Click On The Box To The Right Add the HumanClick "Click to Chat" button to your own e-mails for free at www.humanclick.com
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Just the fact that I have absolutely no negitive reaction to my TM dogs at >all is good enough for me and for the many other people that aquire their >non or less allergenic breeds that do not cause them to react with any or >very little allergy symptoms.There are many thousands of people with animal >allergies that live with in harmony without reacting to their special dog >breeds.Many dog breeds cause my eyes to swell up for up to two days when I >have contact with them. When I first got my Tibetan Mastiffs, I was very >worried that I might react to them. > My only question is why you would get the dogs if there was the possibility > that you might react to them. Its certainly wonderful that you didnt, and all > is well, but if you did, they would have had to be sent back and your family > would have been very upset. Wouldnt it have been wiser to do some testing > before you bought? > Just an observation. > Life is uncertain – eat dessert first. > Nancy > 8=: )
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I have multiple inhalant allergies, including dogs, and cannot go into a vet’s waiting room without beginning to sneeze, tear etc etc. However, I have lived with Kerry Blue terriers for years, and have no immediate-type reaction to them. They also do not shed hair, and are great family pets, especially good with kids. I don’t know how easy they are to obtain over with you, however. SFL
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>Just the fact that I have absolutely no negitive reaction to my TM dogs at >all is good enough for me and for the many other people that aquire their >non or less allergenic breeds that do not cause them to react with any or >very little allergy symptoms.
Of course we cannot even be sure that you even have allergies. Unless you have been seen by an allergist and tested for dog allergy, you cannot be sure. Besides, didn’t you claim to be a cigar smoker in a smoking group and an anti-smoker in this group? "Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea — massive, diffucult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it." Gene Spafford 1992
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Oh COLON, your such a putz. I have been to allergists and yes I am very allergic to dog, cat and many other types of animal allergen. If you call a person a smoker after only smoking a few cigars in ones life. I think that your really grabbing for straws COLON. Yes, All and All I am not for habitual smoking. But I would not call anyone a smoker if they only tried it a few times. That would make you an alcoholic if you only had a few drinks.So Colon are you an alcoholic ? Or will you lie and tell us that you have never had a few cocktails, beers or glasses of wine in your shallow life. Signature To Chat With A LIVE Sales Person { NOW ! } Click On The Box To The Right Add the HumanClick "Click to Chat" button to your own e-mails for free at www.humanclick.com
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Just the fact that I have absolutely no negitive reaction to my TM dogs at >all is good enough for me and for the many other people that aquire their >non or less allergenic breeds that do not cause them to react with any or >very little allergy symptoms. > Of course we cannot even be sure that you even have allergies. Unless > you have been seen by an allergist and tested for dog allergy, you > cannot be sure. > Besides, didn’t you claim to be a cigar smoker in a smoking group and > an anti-smoker in this group? > "Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea — > massive, diffucult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a > source of mind boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it." > Gene Spafford 1992
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Yorkshire Terriers – small, amusing, loyal, tenacious, need little exercise & DO NOT SHED HAIRS ! I am allergic & asthmatic and have two Yorkies – no problems in five years…
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have multiple inhalant allergies, including dogs, and cannot go into a vet’s > waiting room without beginning to sneeze, tear etc etc. However, I have lived > with Kerry Blue terriers for years, and have no immediate-type reaction to > them. They also do not shed hair, and are great family pets, especially good > with kids. I don’t know how easy they are to obtain over with you, however. > SFL
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In 1995, I was taken 911 to the hospital with a severe asthma attack. A day later, I was still in the hospital, recovering. A city police officer came into the room with a german shepherd, and proceeded to let the shepherd investigate the whole room thoroughly. Dogs are not a problem for me, thankfully, and the other occupant was also not affected, but I raised hell with the officer, and with the hospital, and later with the police Dept. and newspaper. I wonder if they ever managed to kill anybody? I have no idea what (or who) they were looking for. Stuff like that scares me! Boyd — "The cure for boredom is curiosity. There is no cure for curiosity."
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>Oh COLON, your such a putz. I have been to allergists and yes I am very >allergic to dog, cat and many other types of animal allergen. If you call a >person a smoker after only smoking a few cigars in ones life. I think that >your really grabbing for straws COLON. Yes, All and All I am not for >habitual smoking. But I would not call anyone a smoker if they only tried it >a few times. That would make you an alcoholic if you only had a few >drinks.So Colon are you an alcoholic ? Or will you lie and tell us that you >have never had a few cocktails, beers or glasses of wine in your shallow >life.
Well, you are back to your usual level of maturity. (Not that I expected anything better from you.) "Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea — massive, diffucult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it." Gene Spafford 1992
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>I have seasonal asthma and allergies. I also have 3 boys that have been >wanting to get a dog for years. So far I have resisted, but now it is >getting more difficult. Are there any breeds of dogs that are supposedly >less of a problem for asthmatics. This would be a downstairs and backyard >dog only. My bedroom and most of my living quarters are upstairs.
First of all, are you allergic to dogs? "Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea — massive, diffucult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it." Gene Spafford 1992
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>Some dogs I’ve heard of for being "non-allergenic" are poodles, lhaso apsos, >shitzu’s, maltese. These dogs don’t shed at all. I personally have a >maltese. I keep his hair short so there’s no maintenance.
The ‘non-allergic dog’ is a myth. The allergen is an enzyme in the saliva and skin oils. "Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea — massive, diffucult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it." Gene Spafford 1992
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>Go to a few search engines and put in non-allergic dogs into the search box. >We wanted to find a very large pup and thats what we did in order to find >our two Fantastic Tibetan Mastiffs. They cause me zero allergy problems. >Some dog breeds do not have the protein in their sweat and saliva that >causes the most common allergic reaction.
Can you name these breeds – and provide any real references? "Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea — massive, diffucult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it." Gene Spafford 1992
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I gave you the info on where to find it.Go work for it Colon ! Signature To Chat With A LIVE Sales Person { NOW ! } Click On The Box To The Right Add the HumanClick "Click to Chat" button to your own e-mails for free at www.humanclick.com
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Go to a few search engines and put in non-allergic dogs into the search box. >We wanted to find a very large pup and thats what we did in order to find >our two Fantastic Tibetan Mastiffs. They cause me zero allergy problems. >Some dog breeds do not have the protein in their sweat and saliva that >causes the most common allergic reaction. > Can you name these breeds – and provide any real references? > "Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea — > massive, diffucult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a > source of mind boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it." > Gene Spafford 1992
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> Go to a few search engines and put in non-allergic dogs into the search box.
Other than hits about "allergic dogs" this is the kind of thing I get (following your instructions). http://www.allergy.mcg.edu/askIra/general.html Q: I am looking for a dog for my son who has asthma and a slight allergic reaction to dogs. He’s currently taking allergy shots. Can you recommend a breed that is less likely to affect him? A:There is no evidence of a "nonallergic" breed of dog. Dog allergens (the substances that provoke allergy symptoms and asthma symptoms) are found in dog saliva and hair. Therefore, a "short-haired" breed is just as likely to produce some dog allergen as a "long-haired" breed. Although there is evidence of breed-specific dog allergens and of variable amounts of dog allergen among difference breeds and individual dogs, any dog will generate some allergen that is capable of causing allergic symptoms in a susceptible individual. The best recommendation for an allergic asthmatic is to avoid dogs as pets. A compromise for dog-allergic patients with asthma would be keeping all furry pets outside the house at all times. <end snip>
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I can not find the list that we found about two years ago, so here is some other info that I have found. Pet Allergy & Allergy Links Web Pages about Human Pet Allergies A Guide to Allergic Pet Owners About.com – Animal allergies, links and About.com – Allergic to dogs: article for week of April 12, 2000 AKC – Tips for living with your dog and allergies Allergy & Asthma Network/Mothers of Asthmatics (AAN/MA) – Health information: pet allergy and Pet Allergies (AAN/MA) – Frequently asked questions Allergy Society of South Africa (ALLSA) – Pet allergy American College of Allergy, Asthma & Immunology (ACAAI) – Pets may cause havoc for allergic and asthmatic patients Ask the Vet – What if I’m allergic to dogs? Champaign County Humane Society – Allergies to Pets: Facts and myths CTW – Pet Allergies – What to do when your child is allergic to the family dog David the Dogman – Dog and cat allergies or http://lonestar.texas.net/~suzannef/pet1.htm Dr. Bob report – Pet allergies DustFree – What you should know about animal dander GroupHealth Cooperative – Allergies: about epidermals (animal dandruff) Healthy Way – Allergic to Man’s Best Friend? – info and links InteliHealth – Pet allergies Lung Association Zurich Mayo Clinic – Pet Allergies: When furry friends are your enemy National Jewish Medical and Research Center – Allergies to animals Northern Drugs – Pet allergies are nothing to sneeze at PetAllergy.com – Online answers for allergy sufferers Pet allergy FAQ – by Cindy Tittle Moore PuppyFinder – Hypoallergenic Dogs Sniffles & Sneezes – Questions commonly asked by allergic animal lovers Southwest Asthma & Allergy Associates – Managing animal allergies University of Illinois College of Veterinary Medicine – Coping with allergic reactions to pets Allergies, Cats, …and Horses! Canadian Curly Horse Association – allergies and Curlies, a hypo-allergenic horse? Cornish Rex Cat – cat with a silky curly-coat International Sphynx Breeders & Fanciers Association – meet Sphynx, the hairless cat Journal of American Veterinary Medical Association (JAVMA) – experimental cat-allergy vaccine offers hope for allergy sufferers General Information about Allergies & Asthma American Academy of Allergy, Asthma and Immunology – AAAAI, all about allergies Doctor’s Guide to the Internet – allergies: information and resources Health Care Information Resources – allergy links The Mining Company – Asthma – links Allergy Products Absolute Air Cleaners and Purifiers – products for allergy sufferers, Colorado Allergy HomeAir Centre – incl. tips for allergy sufferers, Canada Allergy Store – lots of products for allergy sufferers, Florida Allerpet Inc. – * incl. human pet allergy info and links! American Allergy Supply – lots of products for allergy sufferers, Texas —- Back to Sweet Lucy’s AHT homepage or Index of pages (80+ pages) Human pet allergy pages at Sweet Lucy’s site: [ Allergic to Dogs? home ] [ dog breeds for allergy sufferers ] [ allergy links ] [view OLD allergy message board ] [ AHT's and allergies ] [ new "Allergic to Dogs?" message board ] URL http://members.aol.com/ahterrier/allergyl.html Last update 2000-09-16 Here is some info about our Tibetan Mastiff breed. I am very allergic to most dog breeds, but I have zero problems with our Tibetan Mastiff. It’s a rare breed, but a fantastic family companion ! Introduction to the Tibetan Mastiff —- The Tibetan Mastiff has several characteristics which are unique in the dog world. This is still a primitive breed, as marked by the fact that the Tibetan Mastiff bitch has a single estrus per year. This normally occurs in the fall of the year. Tibetan Mastiffs are generally considered to be hypoallergenic, which makes them an excellent candidate for those with allergies. They also lack the usual "doggie" odor. The Tibetan Mastiff keeps its double coat all year, with no shedding until Spring/Summer (depending on climate). Whelping bitches may "blow" their coats twice a year. Shedding normally lasts about four weeks. Tibetan Mastiffs retain the longer guard hairs until Fall when the undercoat again begins to grow. During shedding, a Tibetan Mastiff requires regular brushing. Tibetan Mastiffs mature slowly, with females reaching maturity between three and four years, and males between four to five years of age. Personality will differ from dog to dog, but generally they are a strong-willed, courageous animal, endowed with strong protective instincts of home and family. They adapt well to different lifestyles. Tibetan Mastiffs are aloof with strangers. Tibetan Mastiffs are highly intelligent, and have an exceptional memory. Once introduced to someone, they will rarely forget that person. The Tibetan Mastiff, being a large dog, does require enough room to romp and exercise properly. While they are an active dog out-of-doors, they are usually fairly quiet when in the house. Because centuries of being bred for guarding flocks and homesteads, the Tibetan Mastiff does tend to be a ‘night barker’, and this may be a consideration depending on where you live (close neighbours), and whether or not your Tibetan Mastiff will sleep outdoors or indoors at night. It should be stressed that the Tibetan Mastiff is a strong-willed breed, and proper socialization with people and other animals, and training, will help both dog and owner enjoy their life together to the fullest. Tibetan Mastiffs have been known to chew and dig. Chewing is a habit that most puppies of any breed acquire during periods of teething. Chewing can be channeled in a non-destructive direction by providing items to chew that are safe and non-toxic. Digging holes is a pastime that some Tibetan Mastiffs seem to especially enjoy. They must be outwitted, circumvented, or if you have the right area, indulged. As previously stated, this is a highly intelligent breed which has the ability to adapt to a variety of functions, but it is a breed which has been making its own decisions for thousands of years. The Tibetan Mastiff by nature is a guardian dog, and is used in livestock-predator control by some. Their natural instinctive ability makes them an excellent home protector. They are patient with children, when children and puppy are taught to be considerate of each other. They make an outstanding family dog. They are truly a beautiful sight to behold in the show ring, and can be taught obedience. Because they are intelligent and independent, never compare them to the easily trainable breeds. They are aloof, independent, and capable of making good judgments. From "American Tibetan Mastiff Association Presents: Everything you ever wanted to know about Tibetan Mastiffs and the American Tibetan Mastiff Association" —- Tibetan Mastiff Web Site Links Contents Introduction Breed Standard Health Matters Pictures Online TM owners Miscellaneous Links Merchandise Litters & Rescue Clubs ATMA Gazettes "Our Dogs" Breed Notes (UK) "Dog World" Breed Notes (UK) Email & Web Services —- Drokkytshang Ang-ki Chi (Angie), Drokkytshang Nying-Chhem-Po (Kim) and Drokkytshang Nying-du (Nying) —-