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Ha, ha…like I said before: lashing out at my husband works for me   The last thing on my mind, after putting up with idiotic comments from coworkers all day, is picking up a paint brush.  I wish Bin Laden had thought of that Seriously though, I completely understand where you’re coming from.  I guess I was trying to make some sense of other’s negative behaviors.  Whether we like it or not, there are going to be flame wars and trolls.  Especially in a forum such as this, where there are no moderators. I too love to sing, though my neighbors beg me not to Jaz

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi Jas > I don’t think there is any *one* appropriate way. I think everyone needs > to find what works for them. For me, sometimes a good cry makes me feel > better. Usually, though, singing is my outlet. I love to sing, and can > usually find a song that expresses how I feel when I am having a hard > time putting it into words. Other people may use artwork, journaling, > manual labor, exercise, screaming into a pillow, etc. etc. I think the > list is endless. What works for you? > -Sandy

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Support is in the mind of the beholder just like beauty is in the eyes….. Make sense ? Ronnie

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Being a chronic pain sufferer, I need a place where I can vent and lash out > if need be.  I haven’t had the need to do that in this group, but I’m happy > I have the freedom to do so. > Some flame wars get out of hand and way off topic, but I understand the > necessity for them as well.  On a daily basis we are bombarded with > coworkers, family and friends who have no idea what we’re going through. We > hear all kinds of stupid comments and questions regarding our illnesses. > With all the stressors of the day, it’s no wonder some of us enter this NG > ready to explode.  We need each other, and do get something out of it, or we > wouldn’t return. > I love my husband with all my heart, but he’s usually the one I unleash my > pain/anger on.  He’s understanding, supportive, and open-minded (well, > somewhat and I respect and appreciate him for that.  I guess in a way > this NG is the same thing for all of us.  Those who oppose one another may > not have love for the other, but still need one another – in a place where > we can unload our frustration and be heard.  Hope that made some sense. > Jasmine

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Hi Jas I don’t think there is any *one* appropriate way. I think everyone needs to find what works for them. For me, sometimes a good cry makes me feel better. Usually, though, singing is my outlet. I love to sing, and can usually find a song that expresses how I feel when I am having a hard time putting it into words. Other people may use artwork, journaling, manual labor, exercise, screaming into a pillow, etc. etc. I think the list is endless. What works for you? -Sandy – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Hi Sandy, I never meant that it was ok; just that I can understood the > necessity for it.  Out of curiousity, what’s an appropriate way to vent? > I’ve tried kickboxing, but the impact caused awful exursion headaches > Jasmine > Jasmine, I understand your point, and agree that we need to be able to > vent our anger and frustrations. However, I don’t agree that it is ok to > do so on each other. That would be like saying "I had a bad day, so that > makes it ok to cuss out or beat up my neighbor". I think we need to find > appropriate ways to do our venting, ways that don’t harm other people. > JMHO, of course. > -Sandy > > Being a chronic pain sufferer, I need a place where I can vent and lash > out > > if need be.  I haven’t had the need to do that in this group, but I’m > happy > > I have the freedom to do so. > > Some flame wars get out of hand and way off topic, but I understand the > > necessity for them as well.  On a daily basis we are bombarded with > > coworkers, family and friends who have no idea what we’re going through. > We > > hear all kinds of stupid comments and questions regarding our illnesses. > > With all the stressors of the day, it’s no wonder some of us enter this > NG > > ready to explode.  We need each other, and do get something out of it, > or we > > wouldn’t return. > > I love my husband with all my heart, but he’s usually the one I unleash > my > > pain/anger on.  He’s understanding, supportive, and open-minded (well, > > somewhat and I respect and appreciate him for that.  I guess in a way > > this NG is the same thing for all of us.  Those who oppose one another > may > > not have love for the other, but still need one another – in a place > where > > we can unload our frustration and be heard.  Hope that made some sense. > > Jasmine

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Jasmine, I understand your point, and agree that we need to be able to vent our anger and frustrations. However, I don’t agree that it is ok to do so on each other. That would be like saying "I had a bad day, so that makes it ok to cuss out or beat up my neighbor". I think we need to find appropriate ways to do our venting, ways that don’t harm other people. JMHO, of course. -Sandy – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Being a chronic pain sufferer, I need a place where I can vent and lash out > if need be.  I haven’t had the need to do that in this group, but I’m happy > I have the freedom to do so. > Some flame wars get out of hand and way off topic, but I understand the > necessity for them as well.  On a daily basis we are bombarded with > coworkers, family and friends who have no idea what we’re going through.  We > hear all kinds of stupid comments and questions regarding our illnesses. > With all the stressors of the day, it’s no wonder some of us enter this NG > ready to explode.  We need each other, and do get something out of it, or we > wouldn’t return. > I love my husband with all my heart, but he’s usually the one I unleash my > pain/anger on.  He’s understanding, supportive, and open-minded (well, > somewhat and I respect and appreciate him for that.  I guess in a way > this NG is the same thing for all of us.  Those who oppose one another may > not have love for the other, but still need one another – in a place where > we can unload our frustration and be heard.  Hope that made some sense. > Jasmine

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Hi Sandy, I never meant that it was ok; just that I can understood the necessity for it.  Out of curiousity, what’s an appropriate way to vent? I’ve tried kickboxing, but the impact caused awful exursion headaches Jasmine

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Jasmine, I understand your point, and agree that we need to be able to > vent our anger and frustrations. However, I don’t agree that it is ok to > do so on each other. That would be like saying "I had a bad day, so that > makes it ok to cuss out or beat up my neighbor". I think we need to find > appropriate ways to do our venting, ways that don’t harm other people. > JMHO, of course. > -Sandy > Being a chronic pain sufferer, I need a place where I can vent and lash out > if need be.  I haven’t had the need to do that in this group, but I’m happy > I have the freedom to do so. > Some flame wars get out of hand and way off topic, but I understand the > necessity for them as well.  On a daily basis we are bombarded with > coworkers, family and friends who have no idea what we’re going through. We > hear all kinds of stupid comments and questions regarding our illnesses. > With all the stressors of the day, it’s no wonder some of us enter this NG > ready to explode.  We need each other, and do get something out of it, or we > wouldn’t return. > I love my husband with all my heart, but he’s usually the one I unleash my > pain/anger on.  He’s understanding, supportive, and open-minded (well, > somewhat and I respect and appreciate him for that.  I guess in a way > this NG is the same thing for all of us.  Those who oppose one another may > not have love for the other, but still need one another – in a place where > we can unload our frustration and be heard.  Hope that made some sense. > Jasmine

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Being a chronic pain sufferer, I need a place where I can vent and lash out if need be.  I haven’t had the need to do that in this group, but I’m happy I have the freedom to do so. Some flame wars get out of hand and way off topic, but I understand the necessity for them as well.  On a daily basis we are bombarded with coworkers, family and friends who have no idea what we’re going through.  We hear all kinds of stupid comments and questions regarding our illnesses. With all the stressors of the day, it’s no wonder some of us enter this NG ready to explode.  We need each other. I love my husband with all my heart, but he’s usually the one I unleash my pain/anger on.  He’s understanding, supportive, and open-minded (well, somewhat and I respect him for that.  I guess in a way this NG is the same thing for all of us.  Those who oppose one another may not have love for the other, but still need one another – in a place where we can unload our frustration and be heard.  Hope that made some sense. Thank You, Jasmine

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Hi Jasmine, I completely agree with you. You have put in a very succinct way was i have tried to explain in a previous post. I also have a similar situation with my partner/carer (we have been living together for over 4 years). Yes, your post made perfect sense. Thank you for posting, hope you are well, Take care, Iduna – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Being a chronic pain sufferer, I need a place where I can vent and lash out > if need be.  I haven’t had the need to do that in this group, but I’m happy > I have the freedom to do so. > Some flame wars get out of hand and way off topic, but I understand the > necessity for them as well.  On a daily basis we are bombarded with > coworkers, family and friends who have no idea what we’re going through.  We > hear all kinds of stupid comments and questions regarding our illnesses. > With all the stressors of the day, it’s no wonder some of us enter this NG > ready to explode.  We need each other, and do get something out of it, or we > wouldn’t return. > I love my husband with all my heart, but he’s usually the one I unleash my > pain/anger on.  He’s understanding, supportive, and open-minded (well, > somewhat and I respect and appreciate him for that.  I guess in a way > this NG is the same thing for all of us.  Those who oppose one another may > not have love for the other, but still need one another – in a place where > we can unload our frustration and be heard.  Hope that made some sense. > Jasmine

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Being a chronic pain sufferer, I need a place where I can vent and lash out if need be.  I haven’t had the need to do that in this group, but I’m happy I have the freedom to do so. Some flame wars get out of hand and way off topic, but I understand the necessity for them as well.  On a daily basis we are bombarded with coworkers, family and friends who have no idea what we’re going through.  We hear all kinds of stupid comments and questions regarding our illnesses. With all the stressors of the day, it’s no wonder some of us enter this NG ready to explode.  We need each other, and do get something out of it, or we wouldn’t return. I love my husband with all my heart, but he’s usually the one I unleash my pain/anger on.  He’s understanding, supportive, and open-minded (well, somewhat and I respect and appreciate him for that.  I guess in a way this NG is the same thing for all of us.  Those who oppose one another may not have love for the other, but still need one another – in a place where we can unload our frustration and be heard.  Hope that made some sense. Jasmine

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Hi everyone: My name is Rennee’ and my husband has just been diagnosed with asthma. I lost my father 10 years ago due to asthma. My father was on prednisone for almost 18 years. Right now my husband is taking azmacort. I’m not familer with this medication. does anyone know anything about azmacort or is taking it

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> Hi Everyone: > My name is Rennee’ and my husband has been diagnosed with > asthma. I lost my father 10 years ago to asthma so I know > what alot of people go through with a family member that > has this dieses. My husband is taking azmacort. I’m not > familier with this medication. My father was on > prednisone. Unfortanily the doctors didn’t know the long > term affect. I do. My father was on it for almost 18 > years. If anyone is taking azmacort or is living with a > family member with asthma and you just want to chat feel > free to contact me. I wish I had a support group like this > when I was young and growing up with an asthmatic father.

I took Azmacort for about 2 years.  I had no problem with it untill my asthma worsened so that I needed a stronger medication. Azmacort is a fairly inexpensive medication that has a good safety record.  It is also a fairly ‘low- strength’ medication that seems to be popular with doctors in the treatment of mild asthma.

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Hi Everyone: My name is Rennee’ and my husband has been diagnosed with asthma. I lost my father 10 years ago to asthma so I know what alot of people go through with a family member that has this dieses. My husband is taking azmacort. I’m not familier with this medication. My father was on prednisone. Unfortanily the doctors didn’t know the long term affect. I do. My father was on it for almost 18 years. If anyone is taking azmacort or is living with a family member with asthma and you just want to chat feel free to contact me. I wish I had a support group like this when I was young and growing up with an asthmatic father. Thank you Rennee’

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 how exactly do we get to the bi-polar cafe? i have IRC on my computer at work and home and would love to chat with some of you in Real Time…. jackie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Organization: WebTV Subscriber > Newsgroups: alt.support.depression.manic > hi cog, just getting to know you in the cafe, i will listen any time. > lny

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/join #bipolarcafe is on DreamWaveNet A few servers (don’t know if they all work): london.uk.eu.dreamwave.org:6667 chex.pa.us.dreamwave.org:6667 phoenix.mo.us.dreamwave.org:6667 deception.on.ca.dreamwave.org:6667 pulsar.tas.au.dreamwave.org:6667 — Hugs, http://www.angelfire.com/id/phoenixacroteam/biopatio.html — – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> how exactly do we get to the bi-polar cafe? i have IRC on my computer at > work and home and would love to chat with some of you in Real Time…. > jackie > Organization: WebTV Subscriber > Newsgroups: alt.support.depression.manic > hi cog, just getting to know you in the cafe, i will listen any time. > lny

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Thanks,, lny52,, yes it has been ok at the cafe,, i apprecaite your resonse for that matters every ones at least it shows there are some people that care we all at times need to know that i certainly do know as i face some hard times thanks again,,cog

hi cog, just getting to know you in the cafe, i will listen any time. lny

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just wanted to thank everybody here for the support i recieved and I am also very thankful to the forum i am with that has  offered so much support thanks for not asking me a bunch or questions .. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >anybody know where you can find support and love >sure could use a little,,, cog

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Hi Cog,             I am fairly new here also, and everyone here is GREAT you’ll see ) Alway’s willing to listen and encourage each other!! Cindy – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > anybody know where you can find support and love > sure could use a little,,, cog

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thanks vernon but I’m pretty much tapped out on love right now ,,need a refill,,cog

I remember, you have to give a little to get a – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->little, thats the glory of love. >((((((((((((((((((((((Cog))))))))))))))))))))))))

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Thanks Klass. cog hugs are nice – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Here! In this newsgroup >– >Hugs, >Klaas >>

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thanks for your support, bruce – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >wow.    harpy.

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Man i am down and those hugs are great you have been a good freind,,thanks Lynda love you – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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you have no Idea how good this sounds!!!thanks for the smooches my friend, lov,,cog smooches and, holiday hugs Mrs. Shoen  Valentines – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Day is soon to arrive so I have reserved your usual suite in the west >wing.

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THANKS CINDY i REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR ENCOURAGEMENT!!!! cog – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->see ) >Alway’s willing to listen and encourage each other!! >Cindy

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hi cog, just getting to know you in the cafe, i will listen any time. lny

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> anybody know where you can find support and love > sure could use a little,,, cog

Well let see now I thought I saw some support and love lurking around here…….now where was it?  In the closet, no.  On the back porch, no.  Oh my, where could I have mislaid it.  I remember, you have to give a little to get a little, thats the glory of love. ((((((((((((((((((((((Cog)))))))))))))))))))))))) Hang in there. Vern – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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anybody know where you can find support and love sure could use a little,,, cog

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Here! In this newsgroup — Hugs, http://www.angelfire.com/id/phoenixacroteam/biopatio.html — – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> anybody know where you can find support and love > sure could use a little,,, cog

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wow.    harpy.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> anybody know where you can find support and love > sure could use a little,,, cog

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> anybody know where you can find support and love > sure could use a little,,, cog

Hi cog, How are you my friend? Sound rathr down. What can I do to  help? ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((cog))))))))))))))))))))))))) ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((cog))))))))))))))))))))))))) ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((cog))))))))))))))))))))))))) ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((cog))))))))))))))))))))))))) ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((cog))))))))))))))))))))))))) ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((cog))))))))))))))))))))))))) ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((cog))))))))))))))))))))))))) ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((cog))))))))))))))))))))))))) ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((cog))))))))))))))))))))))))) ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((cog))))))))))))))))))))))))) ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((cog))))))))))))))))))))))))) ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((cog))))))))))))))))))))))))) ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((cog))))))))))))))))))))))))) ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((cog))))))))))))))))))))))))) ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((cog))))))))))))))))))))))))) Love, Lynda — Lynda

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are there any support groups for wives of people with manic depression? my sister lives in cleveland and is very distraught, her husband is very sick and she could use a support group, thx Posted Via Uncensored-News.Com – Still Only $9.95 – http://www.uncensored-news.com  With Servers In California, Texas And Virginia – The Worlds Uncensored News Source Webmasters New RevShare Program  http://www.uncensored-news.com/revshare.html

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Hi and Welcome to ASDM. > are there any support groups for wives of people with manic depression? my > sister lives in cleveland and is very distraught, her husband is very sick > and she could use a support group, thx

Here are some resources: The link for the BPSO  (bipolar significant others) public pages is: www.angelfire.com/zine/manic. On-line support for significant others of bipolar patients.  There is an online support group for the families, friends, and loved ones of those who have BP: http://www.bpso.org Also: http://www.pendulum.org/articles/best_to_say.htm http://www.pendulum.org/articles/worst_to_say.htm http://www.save.org/depfacts.html  Here is an excellent book: "Bipolar Disorder: A Guide for Patients and Families" by Francis Mark Mondimore (Johns Hopkins) What is Manic-Depression (Bipolar Disorder)? Manic-depressive illness (or bipolar disorder ) is a mental illness involving episodes of serious mania and depression. The person’s mood usually swings from overly "high" and irritable to sad and hopeless, and then back again, with periods of normal mood in between.  Bipolar disorder typically begins in adolescence or early adulthood and continues throughout life.  An overview and introduction to bipolar disorder published by the National Institute for Mental Health called Bipolar Disorder is available at http://www.nimh.nih.gov/dart1/bipolar/bipolar.htm  Symptoms of MANIA include: * Abnormally and persistently elevated mood or irritable mood * Decreased need for sleep * Continuous high energy * Racing thoughts * Overly-inflated self-esteem * Distractibility * Increased talkativeness * Increased goal-directed activity or physical agitation * Excessive involvement in pleasurable activities that have a high potential for painful consequences. GETTING STARTED WITH BIPOLAR INTERNET SITES 1. Start with the alt.support.depression.manic FAQ (responses to Frequently Asked Questions) The alt.support.depression.manic FAQ is an internet "classic," a set of questions (and answers) written by people struggling with bipolar disorder for other bipolars, and their families and friends that deal with topics like: * What is Bipolar Disorder? * What treatment options are available? * I’ve just been diagnosed. What do I do now? * A friend or family member has just been diagnosed. What can I do to help? * How do I find more information about Bipolar Disorder? Bipolar Disorder Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) File (Version 1.1, 9/25/96) http://www.moodswing.org/bdfaq.html Web pages created by people who have bipolar disorder The Pendulum Resources home page is a collaborative effort, created and maintained by bipolar members of the Pendulum mailing list. It includes all of the basics you would expect from a comprehensive bipolar site (the a.s.d.m. FAQ listed above, diagnostic criteria for bipolar disorder, a bibliography, famous bipolar individuals). In addition, it has: * Links to bipolar home pages of note * Best (and worst) things to say to someone who is depressed * Several humor sections * Alternative treatments to be used in addition to (or, much more dangerously, instead of) standard medical treatment The Pendulum Resources Bipolar Disorders Portal http://www.pendulum.org/ Joy Ikelman’s bipolar site on bipolar disorder combines solid information with a very personal touch. Her site again includes the basics and adds unique features such as: * Direction to a suicide crisis intervention internet site * A listing of feature-length movies, made-for-TV movies, and documentaries of interest to people with bipolar disorder and other mental illnesses * Scientific abstracts concerning comorbid (co-existent) psychiatric disorders that bipolar patients are known to experience in addition to their bipolar disorder * Help in determining who else in your family tree may have had bipolar disorder. The signs of undiagnosed mental illnesses to look for in your family tree. Joy Ikelman’s (famous) bipolar home page http://www.frii.com/~parrot/bip.html Moodswing.org.  Barry Campbell created a "Resource Page" for people with bipolar disorder. He has a good links page which points you to other internet resources. Moodswing.org http://www.moodswing.org/links.html The Mental Health Net was not written or maintained by bipolars, but it does offer an extensive links page to a wide variety of internet links, and provides a rating system (1-5 stars) for the links . It is also useful in that it provides links to the various manic-depressive newsgroups, such as alt.support.depression.manic, to mailing lists such as pendulum, and it has an extensive set of links to articles about manic-depression. Mental Health Net http://mentalhelp.net/guide/bipolar.htm Peace, Lynda

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